Pivots and repeating reversible trigrams

[traveller1st Profile]

Sorry for the double post but I was cycling through my photoshop layers and was going to look more at the pivots. See what other pretty patterns I could make lol. I spotted this on the vertical matches layer with a gap of three. Not so pretty but probably more interesting.

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[smithy Profile]

Man that's the best yet. It's an absolute gobsmacker!

[Wrench Profile]

What he said!

Bet that won't be a simple one for Doranchak to calculate.

[doranchak Profile Website]

Good work, trav!

As it turns out, those kinds of repetitions are also fairly common. One of CryptoScope's new features is "Alignment analysis", where it takes two cipher texts and slides them around, looking for symbols that match in the same positions. If you paste the 340 in each box, then hit Compute, you get this matrix:



Each number represents the number of matched symbols found with the associated offsets. Naturally, when both offsets are 0, there are 340 matches, since the ciphers are identical.

Clicking the link for Column Offset 0, Row Offset 4 reproduces your finding:



Other offsets produce similar results:









The number of matches is at maximum (20) at Column Offset 10, Row Offset 5:



You will find the the 408 has many similar matching patterns. I don't know what we can conclude from these patterns, except for situations where the repeated patterns help to identify repeated word patterns. Example from the 408:



(And here's the little writeup about the feature: http://oranchak.com/zodiac/webtoy/new_cryptoscope_features.html#align)

[Wrench Profile]

I was checking too, in my own scientific way (staring aimlessly at the 340).

Ever notice that R repeats itself in column 3, 3 times, 5 rows apart zactly?

Excited? Yeah, thought so..

[doranchak Profile Website]

Ever notice that R repeats itself in column 3, 3 times, 5 rows apart zactly?

And + repeats similarly in column 14, starting on the 4th row, 4 rows apart (uh oh, this must be the "Sacred Fours". Maybe there are pyramids and star gates hidden in here. I'll reveal the answer next week.)

But seriously, the pivots are 5 columns apart exactly as well. Hmm....

[traveller1st Profile]

Cool. I'm gonna stop spotting things that already exist lol, or try to. I also must get the hang of the fact that Cryptoscope is there for a reason but moving coloured squares around helps me think. Despite the evidence to the contrary lol.

Ahhh reminds me of maths investigations in school. They put 6 numbers on the board and told us to 'investigate' them. The teacher had to get the Form Master to come and shout at us cause we kept trying to find an answer when there wasn't even a question.

Regarding the pivots. Another random thought is that our boy had a habit of joining words together so rather than being the end of one word and the start of another or a palindrome that's another suggestion ie.

............W
............O
............N
W O N T........S
......................T
......................O
............S T O P

[Wrench Profile]

That's generally the way I've always viewed the pivots. The problem is where do you go from there? Could columns 8 and 13 read from top to bottom, with words intersecting at every row and filler where necessary? Or crosswords in other places, not in any particular pattern?

[traveller1st Profile]

Blind Stag.

Here's some light reading I found.

http://www.umich.edu/~umich/fm-34-40-2/

EDIT: To download it all - download the gzip.tar file and extract it twice till you get down to the PDF folder.

[smithy Profile]

Cool. I'm gonna stop spotting things that already exist lol, or try to.

Trav, I'm frightened you might now move on to spotting things that don't yet exist....