Lyndon Lafferty's The Zodiac Killer Cover Up

[aquiman Profile]

I fall into the 2nd category...... Well, only when it comes to Uncle Bubba's niece..... Hahahaha........ Sorry, but I needed a good Laugherty..... Yeah, I'm getting sick of all the tarded theories..... Cover up? Ugh.......... SERIOUSLY!!!!!!! NO COVER UP!!!!!! OSWALD KILLED KENNEDY ALONE, NO BOMBS WERE PLANTED DURING 9/11, AND THE ZODIAC'S IDENITITY IS UNKOWN!!!!!!!!! ........ AHHHHHH!!!!! ......

Yeah, maybe... but the moon landing was just a TV show. And there are aliens at Area 51.

[Bullitt Profile]

Lafferty's problem is that he's taking himself too seriously (and, unfortunately, others are too). There are, as far as I know, only two reasons why Grant became a suspect in the first place: he once scowled at Lafferty (Zodiac, p. 186) and was questioned by Lundblad about cruising for gay sex at the Hunter's Hill rest area (Grant report, p. 3). Both of these are laughable reasons to suspect anyone of anything, and neither of them are any grounds for suspecting anyone of murder.

Lafferty even told Graysmith that there were only two reasons why Grant was eliminated as a suspect by LE: his handwriting and fingerprints didn't match Z's (Zodiac, p. 193). Apparently Lafferty does not understand that, no matter how good your evidence is, only one fact is enough to prove your suspect is innocent of whatever crimes you're investigating him for. And he admitted to two facts that proved Grant was not Z before engaging in comic-book criminology to explain those irritating little factoids away...

Grant's not Z and Lafferty cannot be taken seriously. He's kidding himself if he believes his evidence actually means anything.

[roxietoday Profile]

How insensitive can mr Laffertys statement be regarding waiting for the suspects wife to die????? Are you serious??? I mean without any regard to the victims or their familys. As I live and breathe, im sure that im not supposed to say how i feel but come on. The familys are so loved and thought of by everybody, the heartfelt emotion, espeacially by those of us who grew up at that time in the bay area, for this reason alone, i think he should have an attorney present when he speaks, to remind him not to blurt out things that are insensitive to the victims and their familys. After all maybe it bothered me more then the rest of you but it reminded me of somebody playing god. Thanx

[Bullitt Profile]

Lafferty should know better. But, he's wasted 40 years of his life and who knows how many thousands of $$$ (or is it tens of thousands of $$$???) on Grant and, like so many others in this case who have done precisely the same thing, his ego is simply too big to admit that he is 100% wrong and he therefore cannot just let it go and move on.

Something else interesting is that Lafferty seems to have relied on Steve Baldino for some "evidence": Baldino claims Grant was at the mythical painting party (Zodiac, p. 189), and also claimed that "[Grant] spent considerable time at Terry's Restaurant during the time Darlene was a waitress there. This was just before she was killed. Officer Steve Baldino verified this" (p. 191). What kind of investigator relies on a witness with no credibility for evidence??? This must be where Graysmith learned that little trick...

As I pointed out before, fingerprints and handwriting cleared Grant back in the 1970's, and even though Lafferty admitted that to Graysmith, he couldn't accept it and started rationalizing it away. Obviously, Lafferty chose to ignore the judge's orders to "close the case against [Grant]" (pp. 192-193). I guess ego will make you do anything, even if it comes to defying the court...

[Lucifer's Angel Profile]

How insensitive can mr Laffertys statement be regarding waiting for the suspects wife to die????? Are you serious??? I mean without any regard to the victims or their familys. As I live and breathe, im sure that im not supposed to say how i feel but come on. The familys are so loved and thought of by everybody, the heartfelt emotion, espeacially by those of us who grew up at that time in the bay area, for this reason alone, i think he should have an attorney present when he speaks, to remind him not to blurt out things that are insensitive to the victims and their familys. After all maybe it bothered me more then the rest of you but it reminded me of somebody playing god. Thanx

I dunno. The victims' families are one thing; the suspect's families are another.

[Pittsburgh Phil Profile]

How insensitive can mr Laffertys statement be regarding waiting for the suspects wife to die????? Are you serious??? I mean without any regard to the victims or their familys. As I live and breathe, im sure that im not supposed to say how i feel but come on. The familys are so loved and thought of by everybody, the heartfelt emotion, espeacially by those of us who grew up at that time in the bay area, for this reason alone, i think he should have an attorney present when he speaks, to remind him not to blurt out things that are insensitive to the victims and their familys. After all maybe it bothered me more then the rest of you but it reminded me of somebody playing god. Thanx

It's pretty gross, and a scummy thing to do.

[Bullitt Profile]

I wonder if Lafferty is going to mention this in his book (Zodiac, p. 190-191):

The investigators had done extensive work on developing a Lake Berryessa connection. On the same day that Bryan Hartnell and Cecelia Shepard were attacked at the lake, a stocky man came into Moskowite Corners General Store, across from Pearce's Chevron Service near the lake. He was nervous and was frantically asking anyone who would listen what was the quickest way to leave the lake.

The detectives had located a witness who was having lunch at the general store at the time and who felt the man was acting highly unusual. He had even followed him out of the store and watched him get into a white automobile and drive away from the lake. "He matched the description," they told me, "of a man who had been watching some girls taking a sunbath near where Hartnell and Shepard were knifed. The police never found such a man or the car he was in." I told them I recalled the man seen at the lake was thought to be much younger than [Grant].

"We brought our witness an assortment of photos," they continued, "and bang!—he picked our man out. He was the one he had seen at Moskowite Corners. The following Tuesday we took him to a group meeting so he could see [Grant] in the flesh. He wasn't totally certain that [Grant] was the same man. Our witness thought that [Grant] had dyed his hair. He did tell us that [Grant's] voice was almost exactly the same as the man asking directions the day of the Berryessa murder. And this was about five years after the death of Shepard.

"Unfortunately, we lost our witness ten days after he was taken to see [Grant]. This was in an explosion. The witness' death was ruled an accident."

The reason I mention this is because something occurred to me this evening as I drove by Moskowite Corners at 7:11 PM. Z stabbed Hartnell and Shepard at 6:30 PM and would have arrived at Moskowite Corners about 40 minutes later. Lafferty's witness (who conveniently died in an explosion 37 years ago and cannot tell us any different) was described as having lunch when this "nervous" man was "frantically" asking for directions to leave the lake. That in itself is most odd, since Moskowite Corners is at a three-way intersection of roads, and if he had been driving south on Knoxville Road, then either of the other two will take you away from the lake (one to Napa, the other to Winters).

Even if that man was Grant, what's incredible is that Lafferty used this deceased witness' testimony as evidence. If the witness was having lunch, then the nervous man cannot have been Z, since Z would have been at Moskowite Corners several hours later at dinnertime. And even if this "nervous" man was Z, what was he nervous about at lunchtime, since he had not yet attacked anyone? And what was he doing driving away from LB instead of towards it trolling for victims?

This is the same kind of crap we get from the scavengers. Lafferty's no different.

[Wrench Profile]

This is a strange story. If I was at Moskowite corner and someone franticly asked "What's the quickest way to leave the lake?" I would immediatly ask A) where are you going.and B) what's the problem?. Guess we don't have those answers.

Asking which way to leave the lake is a bit like asking which way to leave Hawaii. You don't just leave, you have a place you wish to end up. Any of the three ways to leave from Moskowite is going to put you in a different direction, miles from the other two.

It almost sounds like the guy got to Berryessa somehow (maybe the bus from Deer Lodge dropped him off ), stole a car and was making his getaway. So many car sightings in the case and not one license number...

[Zsearcher Profile]

If he needed a car to steal there would be no better one than Hartnell's because he had the keys, and taking the car would remove all suscpicion from anyone driving by. Also defacing it made it useless to use as a getaway car.

So if he didn't get dropped off, but drove in, he obviously would know how to get back out.

It isn't rocket science.

That whole story stinks

[Zabagliona Profile]

Sorry....I think this whole thing is just another Z-related nutcase....I don't care if he's a former cop...