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Postby smithy » Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:47 pm

I've found this quite interesting:

http://zodiackillerfactsinfo.com/Timeli ... _15PM.html

Worth a chat about, perhaps.

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Re: Timeline

Postby Wrench » Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:17 pm

Anyone know how big the student body was a RCC?

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Re: Timeline

Postby duckking2001 » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:09 pm

Maybe that is true...but unfortunately when someone says a lot of stupid things, I have a hard time listening to what they have to say that might not be.

All I know is that I remember one time Ray Grant saying, "Cheri Jo bates was not in the RCC Library!"

and a few minutes later, by pure coincidence, I came upon a picture of her captioned: "Cheri Jo Bates in the RCC Library".

I doubt that the picture was from the same date, but it made me chuckle.

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Re: Timeline

Postby smithy » Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:55 am

Wrench wrote:Anyone know how big the student body was a RCC?


Wotcher mate - it's 34,058 now, according to:
http://www.campusdiscovery.com/colleges ... p-reminder

- and a population of around 300,000 according to Wiki.
Numbers on Wiki show the population in total as being between 84,000 and 140,000 between 1960 and 1970, so obviously a time of growth, no?
If we assume the same kind of ratio between students and population, just as a figure to hang a hat on, we can probably guess between 10,000 and 20,000 in the mid 1960's.

If there's a place with accurate demographics, I haven't yet found it. :-(

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Re: Timeline

Postby Wrench » Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:23 pm

Just wondering (obviously) what percentage of the student body 65 would represent, or would be expected to recognize a popular student, either from knowing her or from a photo.

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Re: Timeline

Postby Pittsburgh Phil » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:27 pm

Wasn't this guy proved to be a cook?

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Re: Timeline

Postby duckking2001 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:52 pm

A cook, as in a chef?

He does seem to find that Cheri ate roast beef to be some smoking gun.

Here's a few words of wisdom from Ray Grant:

"One of the things I’ve noticed about most Zodiac “hobbyists” is that they prefer to keep things nice and vague. Anytime you get close to pinning down some detail, they back away and start questioning your sources."

How dare we ask people to actually have some basis for the things they say. I guess we should just accept things that people make up off the top of their heads without question. And how is that working out?

"I’m not making any headway getting people to accept that Cheri Bates was NEVER in The RCC Library the night she was murdered."

At least he's honest.

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Re: Timeline

Postby Pittsburgh Phil » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:47 pm

Whoops. I meant kook.

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Re: Timeline

Postby duckking2001 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:59 am

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/Ray%20Grant.htm

This explains why Grant is so determined to establish her timeline.

Grant wrote:But the most egregious incongruity of all is the basic forensic fact that the medical examiner estimated Cheri Bates had last eaten 2-4 hours prior to her death.

TWO to FOUR hours.

The estimated time of death, consistent with a loud scream heard at approximately 10:30pm . . . was 10:30pm.

That means, according to the medical examiner, that Cheri Bates ate sometime between 6:30pm and 8:30pm.


Following this, taken as fact, Cheri shouldn't have been at the library at this time because she was eating some roast beef. Precluding the possibility that she could have brought food with her and ate it (Grant doesn't consider this), I'd say he proved his case. Right? err... no.

Cheri Bates shouldn’t have had ANY food in her stomach, if she last ate at 5pm.

And we know she last ate at 5pm, because what she ate at 5pm is what was found in her stomach. So how was any of it still there?

....Unless she was abducted, which, as I’ve said, would have happened around 6:20pm that evening. In that case, Cheri would have spent the final four hours of her life in FEAR of her life. And that’s what her stomach is telling us.


No, you and her stomach are telling us that she ate 2-4 hours from when she died, which you just apparently proved, and now you are telling us to dismiss in favor of your new timeline. What? :think:

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Re: Timeline

Postby Zabagliona » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:11 pm

He's smokin' somethin' again....

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