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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Zsearcher » Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:22 am

AK on Unazod wrote:A 13 symbol code is way too short to devise a solvable entirely new code key, so it is highly likely Zodiac mostly used the existing Harden Key. To start the first stage translation of symbols that we saw in the first code, I use all Harden Key, with the exception of "E" I solve as a "C" - because we already have two "E" 's, and in Harden a backwards "E" does translate as a "C". I cannot create the cross circle Zodiac symbol on my computer so it is represented here as a "+".

But what about symbols that did not appear in the first code, thus no Harden translation is available? Here I solve the anchor symbol (Aries) (represented below by a "^") as an "O", based on the fact that a very similar symbol, just with a short line on top, was solved as an "O" by the Harden's, and I solved the same symbol without the short line on top as an "O" in the Mt. Diablo Map Code, which appears to have been correct. I solve the three circled "8" ' s (represented below by "8" 's) as a "T", primarily by conventional ETA frequency analysis, as "T" is the second most used letter in the English language and we already have two "E" 's.


Besides other names being able to be found AND Ted K's name found in a lot of places, we have THIS. There are many assumptions made which can not be proven to be correct:

1) Use the Harden key??
2) Translate the E to a C (exception to the Harden key)??
3) Translate Aries as O because a similar looking symbol was translated as O (uses own solve in another cipher as verification)??
4) The 8s translated to T because the most common letter is E, but since that was used, the next most common letter T was used??

With this, he still needs to shift and anagram to get THEOKACZYNSKI

Does he actually expect us to believe this was all done without bias? 4 arbitrary judgement calls and anagramming and shifting?

My POIs name fits as a one to one symbol to letter translation with one transposition (anagramming), and my unanagrammed solution actually has meaning too. Yes I actually have a code key for the 13 cipher.

There is no way I'm going to choose that convoluted solution over mine ever. Find Ted K as a one to one symbol translation with one transposition with meaning in the original and we'll talk.

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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Zsearcher » Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:56 pm

Based partly on what Kite found, added to what I played with, with the word "the" it appears you can get Dr Kzynski by shifting The Zodiac by 0, 10, 20 (NO ANAGRAMMING).

Now that is much more interesting than any other shifting I've seen.

There's only 40 million shifts possible.

At least its not in hundreds of zeroes like the rest of the code work.

Still not anything to jump up and down about, but better than anything else I've seen.

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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Bullitt » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:21 pm

I may have mentioned this before, but I ran THEODOREJKACZYNSKI through the anagram server and got 83,335 anagrams. Here are some of the first 1,000 displayed results:

A Zydeco Joker Thinks
A Knocked Zithers Joy
A Kickers Dozenth Joy
Heartsick Zonked Joy
Skyjack Theorized No
A Jockeys Dozenth Irk
A Hickory Zonked Jest
A Sicko Dozenth Jerky
A Knocks Thyroid Jeez
Aced Honker Zits Joky
Jacketed Shy Rink Zoo
Cankered Hos Zit Joky
Credenza Hos Kit Joky
Ached Jerk Knits Oozy
Hijacked Zone Sky Rot
Crashed Jet Kinky Zoo

Some of these actually make more sense than "THEODORE J KACZYNSKI." Who's to say that what AKWilks says is there is what was intended and not one of those I listed above? They are just as legitimate as "THEODORE J KACZYNSKI." Once again, I will state that anagramming does not impress me, and neither does the arbitrary Caesar shift method used to get results.
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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Zsearcher » Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:28 pm

Yep, when you shift and anagram you get off into fantasy land. At least that solution is read from left to right without needing to anagram.

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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Zabagliona » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:55 pm

I agree Bullitt....

My personal fave: "A Zydeco Joker Thinks"...
"Don't make me get my flying monkeys!"

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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby doranchak » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:40 pm

I was fond of JOKES ON THE CRAZY KID. And HOT KNICKERS DAZE JOY. And DOZEN HIJACKER TO SKY. And ZODIAC JERKS ON THE KY. And SHY ZODIAC TOKEN.

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Re: Analysis of AK Wilks' Caesar shift method

Postby Zsearcher » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:56 pm

Zsearcher wrote:Based partly on what Kite found, added to what I played with, with the word "the" it appears you can get Dr Kzynski by shifting The Zodiac by 0, 10, 20 (NO ANAGRAMMING).

Now that is much more interesting than any other shifting I've seen.

There's only 40 million shifts possible.

At least its not in hundreds of zeroes like the rest of the code work.

Still not anything to jump up and down about, but better than anything else I've seen.


For some reason AK Wilks deleted a post today that he made yesterday on Unazod, and then reposted it today which bumped up his thread and covered up Kite's thread about this. That is just strange.

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